This is for the ones who feel that quiet pull, the knowing that life is about more than just success titles or chasing the next big thing, because it's not just about what you build. It's about how you show up and the story you write with your life. We're Ashton and Jordan, sisters, seventh-generation entrepreneurs and your hosts. We're here to call you higher into your potential, your purpose and the kind of life that feels rich in all the ways that matter.
Welcome to Legacy Creator.
Welcome to Legacy Creator, season 3. I can't believe I'm saying that because we wrapped recording for season 2, like the bulk of it, halfway through last year. That feels like a lifetime ago.
Yeah.
I'm like, what even was that season?
Dude, I know. I'm like, I don't even remember it. No, but I am really proud of last season. However, season 3, she's about to be so good. So much has changed since season 2, like in both of our lives, and we're going to share so much more about that. But first, we just want to say: welcome to season 3. If you are a long-time listener, like you've been here since day one, welcome back. And if you are new, just welcome. Just come on in. We're so excited to kick off this season with you, and today we really do want to set the tone for this season of Legacy Creator. Like, what are we going to be focusing on? What are we going to be discussing? What are we diving into? And really, a lot of that is going to center around rethinking and shifting our perspective around: what does it really mean, what does it really look like to build a legacy? So we're gonna set the tone with that conversation today.
But, like I said, you know, the last year has changed Jordan and I so much, and I think that is going to be so much of the foundation of this season. I feel like last season, we were on fire. We were on fire. We were spicy.
When we were talking about that at one point. I just love how you were, like, "I was pregnant and I was on." I can't remember how you worded it, but it was hilarious.
"You're like I was pregnant and I was on the warpath or something like that."
I mean, I was. I was super pregnant when we were recording the the bulk of that season, and, you know, it was just such a spicy season, and I feel like this season is—we're still gonna have our spicy moments because, like, we just get to it, like, it's just our nature. However, I do feel like we're entering our, like, softer, like, era with this season of the podcast, and all of that will make sense in due time. But I think, like I was saying, so much of this season is coming to the forefront through our own experiences and transformations over the last year. And obviously everyone knows that. I mean, most everyone knows that I became a mom. And if you've ever had a child before, you just know that rocks your world. It shakes you to your core. It changes so much. And for me, it really brought me back to, you know, what do I ultimately want and what do I really think about life and business and what matters to me? And just kind of like these bigger questions and elements. And in another way, like, you kind of had your own, you know, shifts and experiences last year too.
Yeah, what I like to call my god moment, which I feel like we'll kind of touch on at a later date in the in the season, but I feel like I kind of went through some changes as well, in like a very different way, in a more personal way, kind of behind the scenes. And I don't know, though, like. I know that like becoming a mom changes everything, but I also became an aunt, and I feel like that changed my perspective on like life and in some ways and kind of like opened up my eyes to like the bigger picture. So I feel like all of that's really going to be reflected in in this season of the podcast and just like moving forward. So yeah, just like a whole new, fresh perspective on life and therefore how we do business.
So you're going to see us bring some different topics to the table this season that we we really haven't before in this way. I mean, it's not going to become like a mommy podcast by any means, but like, we're definitely going to touch on our own, like, personal experiences and journeys, and you know, relationships with ourselves and others and how we view, you know, business, life, like the world, just in bigger conversations, which is like—who's even surprised? Who's even surprised by that? Because we're just like, yeah, we're going deep into all the things all the time, but it's going to be a different energy this season. We're really excited to just bring you guys along for that. Along with that, we are a part of our own community as well, and we have conversations with you guys too. I just feel like it's this larger thing that has been happening and unfolding for the last couple of years, where people are really just thinking more intentionally about: okay, what am I doing? What am I building? How am I spending my time, not only when I'm working on my business, but when I'm not? And do I have any time where I'm not working on my business? And how am I spending my days? How am I living my life? And I think we've been asking those questions more and more over the last couple of years. And so it's kind of this collective thing that's happening. And yeah, we're excited to go there this season.
And ultimately, when Jordan and I were really getting into the nitty-gritty and the heart of this season, one thing that we kept coming back to is just this idea of like going back to your roots, going to your roots of like who you truly are, where you come from, why did you start your business? How did you end up where you are at in your life and your business? And—and yeah, I mean what—what do you truly desire? And is that leading the path forward? Like, is that what you're focusing on? Um, so, yeah, that's going to be the theme this season. We're really calling you to your roots as a person and in your business. And yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be good.
Yeah. I feel like we've always, we've always been like thinking very big about life, 'cause I feel like that's kind of how we were raised. But I feel like in our own personal journeys, it's like it's become more than just building a business. It's like the whole picture of your life. And like, are you really living your life? And I feel like I kind of hit that point late last year where I was like: how am I living life? What is my quality of life? And like: am I actually living? Do I feel like I'm living my life? And it's like I kind of hit a wall with that. But I feel like for both of us, I've just been asking a lot of those bigger, important questions of like, what actually matters to me? Like, am I doing this because it's a, you know, real desire within myself? Or am I doing this because someone else has done it? And I feel like I need to kind of like, emulate that. Like, what do you really care about? What do you, what do you want to really do with your life? What actually matters to you? and getting back to the roots of like who we are as people, and like really owning that, and like owning our story and not trying to be like other people or not trying to emulate and just asking those bigger questions like: what do I really want? what do I actually want? and doing a lot of that reflection. so you, yeah.
And like getting into this season where we've really been thinking about like what is legacy? Because, like that's the whole, you know, that's the whole title of the podcast, "Legacy Creator." And I feel like, when we actually like, picked the name for that, I think you came up with it. You kind of brought that to me and I was like, that's cool. Like, you know, let's roll with it. Like I don't know. And I wasn't really sure like what that actually meant. And I feel like we've gotten really clear on what legacy means for us now, and it kind of means something a little bit different than it originally did, I think, when we were first starting the podcast. And so I, like, in getting ready for the season, I came across this quote that I wanted to read to, kind of just like set the scene, and it's by a man named Peter Strople. It says: "Legacy is not leaving something for people, it's leaving something in people." And I feel like that is just the common theme for not only this episode but moving forward with the whole of the podcast. It's like, yes, we're here for the wealth building and the business building and all the things, but we're here for more than that. It's about what you leave within people, the impact you have on people. I feel like we've always had that heart for people, but I feel like now we have more understanding, I guess, and more clarity on what it really means to build a legacy.
Totally. That quote, like, oh my goodness. I don't even know who this man is, but I need to meet you. I need to read your books. I need to follow the path that you have set. No, I'm just kidding. That is just so good. And it really does perfectly express what we believe to be true about legacy. And you know, I think a lot of us have misconceptions about what it means to build a legacy. A lot of us think about, you know, kind of the traditional sense of building a legacy, but in our space, some things I've kind of noticed is like we feel like if our life seems small, then we aren't building a legacy. You know, like if we're just, you know, being a mom at the house. if we're, you know, sitting in our office creating content, we're making meals for the family, you know, we're going on our morning walk. Like, these are just small moments. Like, this feels like such a small life, and we're like, in no way is that creating any form of impact. But that actually isn't true. Like. I really do believe that the way that you live and walk and move and the way that you choose to be in your days is—grow, evolve, like work on you, work on your business. All those small things, they really do add up, and that is you building a legacy. Like the way you carry yourself. Like this is something I think about so much more now that I'm a mom. The way that I carry myself now and every moment of every day, like now, I have a little human watching that. And am I going to be perfect? No. So I have to relinquish that. However, the way that I move and the way that I operate, the way that I react to things, those things matter. Okay. So human beings, every human life matters. And I think sometimes in our digital era and age, like we just feel like it always has to be more and more and more, bigger, bigger, bigger, you know, go viral, have millions of followers in order for you to really carry value and weight. And it's just simply not true. If you have a powerful impact on one human being, do you realize the ripple effect that that creates from them?
That's something that's always really inspired me and just the way that we were raised and coming from a line of entrepreneurs in our family and hard workers. I'm getting on a rabbit trail here, but the point is that those small, mundane, simple moments, they do matter. And the way that you move, you better be moving with intention. I mean, the way that you're showing up every day, that is what you're building. That is the legacy that you're building. So that's a big one. Another thing, too, is just this idea that legacy has to mean hustle, go, go, go, pressure, striving, because we have created this idea where, you know, this hustling for success and staying constantly busy all the time, like we equate that with purpose. We equate that with, you know, importance. "if i'm busy and if i have you know all of these client calls and meetings and you know i'm buried in work and i'm making all this money i have no time to foster relationships i have no time for my kids i have no time for myself you know but i'm doing it you know because what i'm gonna leave behind like that's gonna be it you know i want to make sure that what's on my tombstone like that you know some people remember something specific about me i'm able to leave wealth" whatever. it's often like these material things. And in actuality, what we should be thinking about is like, it really is about the impact that you have on people. And, you know, it doesn't have to be this constant hustle and striving in order to really leave an impact. I've learned that the hard way. You know, I think it is important to work hard. We both believe in that, but we also believe in like moving sustainably. And you had this, I don't remember when this happened last year, but you reached this point where you're like, okay, I'm burnt out. And you know what I'm going to do? One thing for myself, I'm going to go on walks every day.
Literally. I think that happened. I actually don't know exactly, but it might've been somewhere between October and December, somewhere around there of, I was just like, dude, like, or maybe it was before then. I don't remember exactly, but I was just like, I am just not like living like I am, but I'm like, I'm not enjoying the majority of my day. Like, I just felt like I was glued to my desk all the time. And I was just like, "Every morning. Every morning." I mean, I would skip a workout and just go straight to work. I would have a quick breakfast maybe, but just down a bunch of coffee. And I felt like I was running on fumes, which is similar to a story that you shared recently on our Instagram. But it was just a similar thing of just going, going, going all the time. And I was like, I'm burnt out. I want to enjoy my days and I can take a few little walks throughout the day to get outside and get some sunshine and get some solitude and some peace and quiet and get disconnected from the computer. Because I love the computer and I love working and I love being involved with all the little things. I really do. I love creating and everything. I felt so exhausted and I was like, I don't feel like I'm really like intentionally, you know, living my life and actually living, living my life, enjoying my days. And I was just like, something has to change. So like I had to get out of that pattern and I feel like so much happier now. 'Cause I feel like I just have better balance. Like, you know, I mean, work is great, but like, if you don't have that balance, then it's just like, you're going to burn out. Yeah.
You're not going to do what you came here to do.
I remember when you were telling me like, what was going on? Like, why are you so stressed? Like what is going on? And you're like, you know, I don't remember how you voiced it, but you're just like, dude, like I'm just working. Like I'm waking up and working. I'm working on them. I'm like, why? Why are we doing this? Let's not. You've always been so good about bringing the balance where I'm so stressed and I have to get this done by the due date. I'm so serious sometimes about a lot of things and you're just like, hey, that's okay. You can push it out a few days. It's okay. You've always been really good about that. I could take it so seriously to the point where I'm driving myself crazy. But yeah, i just feel like i found a better balance and i'm like, thank god. yeah. It is so funny how like we often 9 times out of ten like, we're the one putting on the pressure. We're the ones putting on the pressure on ourselves. Yeah, i mean like i for sure wasn't like, you know, berating you get—we're performing heart surgery. But I do that to myself too. We are our own worst critics sometimes and we push ourselves too hard sometimes. And what is it all for? I mean, at the end of the day, are we saving a life? Are we a heart surgeon? No. If you are, then that's a totally different story. But it's just like, we have to have a semblance of balance. And I think for us, we're always going to have to work harder to, well, I know for me to like slow down. I think our natural inclination because how we were raised, being seventh-generation entrepreneurs and this work ethic that has been passed down to us intentionally through members in our family, we have that so instilled and ingrained in us, and it is such a strength. But at the same time, you, if you have a really strong work ethic, but you never pull off the gas, you never take time to recalibrate, reset, pour into your own cup, you're just gonna burn out. And at the end of the day if you really are wanting to build something impactful, really impact people's lives, build a legacy, make money, support your family, you insert whatever it is, you have to have energy for that. And so that's why for both of us, like, we are very serious about moving our bodies, working out, you know, eating nourishing food, like taking time to make a lunch, like it is not acceptable to work through lunch. You know, I'm like, I don't care what you're building. I don't care what you're doing. I don't care how big it is. Like you need to eat lunch. And I tell my husband that every day. I'm like, "Have you eaten lunch? Have you eaten lunch? Did you eat anything?" "You better go throw some protein powder in a shaker." You know, you can make it easy.
So all that said, to wrap up that point, building a legacy doesn't have to equate to this hustle and striving all the time. That's not normal to be in that energy all the time. It's just simply not. There has to be an ebb and a flow. And then another big misconception I wanna wrap up with is just this idea that like legacy is for people who are well known or wealthy or they're extremely visible, right? Like think about people that you look up to that are on stages or they're writing books or they're building billion-dollar corporations. I know, you know, well actually I'm gonna leave that example out because I have been on this point entirely too long, but all that said, just think of people that you aspire to, people that you admire, and you know, they often are going to be more well known. Like we think that building a legacy has to be done out in the open, you know, like everyone has to kind of see that, like there has to be some sort of evidence of that. But actually what we would argue is that building a legacy is more of this like quiet, like behind the scenes work. Like it doesn't have to be loud. It doesn't have to be in your face. It doesn't mean that you have to be, you know, flying across the country, speaking on stages. Like that's not the only way to build a legacy. That is the path for some people. And if you aspire to that, like we will never knock that because what is inside of you is there for a reason. So if you have these innate desires that are true to you, you need to pursue those, but you don't need to pursue things because you think it's the right thing to do, because that's supposed to be the way that you build a legacy. Like that's not what it is. And I know for me, one of the things that I struggled with earlier on, even just a few years ago, is this idea that like the more that I do, the more money I make, the more people that I work with, it equates to, you know, the impact and how much of a legacy I am building. But I mean, man, you know, that's not to say that I don't want to reach a lot of people, but I feel like my whole perspective on building a legacy is entirely different now, especially because I have a son. Like you think so differently about the level of impact that you have, because the thing about it is the more intentional, the deeper that you go with individual people, the more of a lasting impact you create on individual lives. And that does create a ripple effect. And so it doesn't mean that you can't pursue speaking to the masses and doing all these big things if that's really what you want to do, but it's not the only way. And a big thing we want to shine the spotlight on this season is just this idea that building a legacy isn't just when you're like writing the book and speaking on stages and hosting your mastermind and making all that money, right? Building a legacy is like, it happens in your home with the relationships that you foster, like with your partner and the kids that you're raising, like the little children that you're pouring into and you're empowering them to embody their potential and really grow and expand their mindset. And really taking the time with the people that you're engaging with online, with the clients that you already have. Are you going above and beyond? Are you really going deep with people? Are you seeing them as human beings? Or is this just a numbers game? Is this just a volume game? We're just burning and churning through people like they're freaking AI bots. so that's a big thing that we want to highlight. Legacy can look just so different to every individual, and we all have our own unique path, and it's all about following your path with purpose and intention and not trying to make it something that it's not.
Yeah, I feel like something that came to my mind kind of mid to late last year, that was like a really big theme, a mindset shift for me that I needed to have, was this phrase like focus on the one. 'Cause no one had like, taught me this or like. I don't know kind of where I started thinking this way, but it's similar to you, where you've just felt like you know the more the more clients you have and like that's, the more impact you can have. And you're always like thinking bigger. And I don't think that that's bad. But I feel like I got to a similar place as well, where I was like, we just need, like a ton of people in our community. We need, like, a ton of customers and I want to make more money and I want to make more money so that I can have, you know, more space, more peace, more you know, fun things. Like that's kind of—that was my motivation. But it was like I felt like I was so focused on the wrong things and focusing on the numbers, only focusing on, you know, if we put out a piece of content, like how well does it perform? And I feel like you have to play that social media game if you're like marketing yourself online. And I feel like I got so swept up in that feeling like, you know, if a piece of content doesn't do that, well I didn't do a good job and whatever. And I feel like I just got into this like really negative headspace, where I was just focusing on, like, you know, getting to this, like, you know, sort of elusive, like utopia of like, one day when we have all the customers we could ever need and we have all the abundance and we'll be up on stages, doing events and we'll do all this, all these big things. And I was just like, first off, do I even want that? second, it's like, I'm not even ready for that. if that's something that I would want, you know what I mean. I feel like I just had to get back to focusing on the people right in front of us and focusing on the people in my life, pouring into friendships and connections that I have, also focusing on, like, the customers that are already in our, in our doors. You know what I mean, like fostering that. So I feel like I just had that big perspective shift, like focus on the one and like more will come and like we'll grow and we'll grow into that sustainably. 'Cause, like, that's what we're all about anyway. It's like sustainably growing. You don't want to grow too big for your britches, so to speak, and then like crush, like crash under the weight of that, you know, or be crushed by the weight of that. So, yeah, I don't know. I just feel like I had to have that perspective shift for myself because I felt like I was so focused on the wrong things. And if you really want to have impact, you don't have to have thousands or millions of followers or be some big person up on a stage writing books and selling this and that and being a motivational speaker. You don't have to have that to have real impact. That was just a really good perspective for me, because I feel like it makes, I don't know. I just feel like I have so much more joy and peace now. 'Cause I feel like I just have peace in the present, because I'm like I am having the impact that I can have. Like if I do what I can with what I have and I just keep doing that, like, hopefully I'll have impact on like one person or like 2 people, and that would be more than enough, you know. So just I feel like that perspective shift gave me so much more peace too.
It's so true. I feel like when you're following someone else's path, you have to strive, but when you're following your own path, you get to be in peace. Like you get to rest. There is a grace because it is your path. Yeah, and how often are we going for things that aren't really what we want? And more to come on that another episode. But I remember this one conversation I had with a client where she was like: "all these people are opening up studio spaces for their teams and you know they have like this camaraderie and everybody's working in the office." And I was like: "that is so cool. Is that something that you want?" and we kind of weighed like: "okay, if that was something that you wanted, here's all of the really exciting things and here's all the responsibility." So anytime you're going for something, you need to look at, do I really want this? and I think one thing that can help you identify that is like, when you look at the responsibilities that stack up, is it worth it to you to have all of those responsibilities, like additional overhead, not working from your bed or in your livings? Ultimately, we reached this point where she was like: "oh my gosh, I really don't want to do that. That sounds awful." I'm like, "okay, and how do we reach this point? We need to learn this. It's a learning lesson. We got here because we're watching other people." And I'm getting ahead of myself, but I just I can't help it. You know, so many of us can relate to that. So it's one of the things where we really want to highlight, like: you need to stay on your path. Like, if you don't, you're going to be striving. And if you do, you're in full peace. If you're on your path, you're going to feel aligned. And if you're not on your path, then you're just going to feel that inner turmoil and chaos all the time. All the time.
Alright. So we wanted to dive into definitions, because when we talk about a certain word, we always like to know what it really is. And so we wanted to look at the traditional definition of legacy. And there's a couple that came up. The first one is "an amount of money or property left to someone in a will." And the second one being "the long, lasting impact of particular events, actions, et cetera that took place in the past or of a person's life." I feel like, out of those two, like the second one, I feel like rings more true of, like what I really think legacy is about. Like the first one is just like it's just an amount of money or property and like, yeah, like the stuff is great, but it's like more about, like the impact that you have on, like people, the impact of particular events, actions, like actions that you took, things that you did, events that happened in your life, how that affects other people. Like—I can even think about like with our parents and like small little interactions and things that happen in their lives that have, like, impacted us in a way, in like a roundabout way. and so it's just like the the small things that really build up and make this big impact. and uh, we were kind of thinking about like, if we could come up with our own definition, what would that be? and i think our definition would be something along the lines of: legacy is the lasting impact you make through how you live, the values you uphold and the influence you leave on others. it's not just something you leave behind, it's something you live and embody every day. and like, kind of like what you were saying. it's like you don't have to do something big and grand to like. leave a legacy. like you can build a legacy from within your home. if you're like a stay, let's say you're a stay-at-home mom and an entrepreneur like you. like that's like you can still leave a legacy just from here. you know you don't have to be up on a stage doing anything crazy. um, but yeah, it really comes down to like how you live your days and the way you live, the actions you take. i feel like that is ultimately what what people remember from you, what they take away from you. and like, for example, just a random thing like our dad works out like pretty much every day of the week except sundays. that's his rest day. and like health is very important to him, like his health and and fitness and everything. and i feel like just that simple act of like he gets up every day and he also does a cold plunge every day in the pool after working out. and like his commitment to that, his dedication to like doing that every day, i'm like. that's what i will. that's one of the biggest things i take away from. like him is just like he's so dedicated and he does it every day, and that's something that, like, I want to take like forward in my life. and maybe in the same way, but maybe in a different way, like I want to have that same level of dedication and commitment and, uh, like commitment to my health and just, yeah. So good.
And I think this just is so far reaching to the point where, like sometimes, our minds just really don't comprehend it. but we always talk about how we're seventh-generation entrepreneurs. and anytime we sit down with our dad, like one of the greatest examples that we can see that's been passed down through every single one of these people, is this work ethic. and it was so ingrained in each of those individuals that whoever they were raising, whoever they were pouring into, and their family also receive that. and so here we are, like generations later. we have this work ethic that, yes, we also have to make a choice to like partner with that, but it is so ingrained in us. it's a big reason why, like, we're entrepreneurs and we run our own business, because that has been passed down. and how many of you guys think that, you know, seven generations ago, like our great, great, great, great, great grandfather was like, "I'm going to work hard because I know, like, I'm going to have," you know, "these great, great, great, great, great grandchildren that are going to benefit from that." no, like, it's not how they were thinking. they're just going about their days like moving, being, doing what was in front of them. that is building a legacy. like that is what it is. and i think sometimes too, you know, we have to remember that building a legacy, like, it's not for you. it's not for attention and accolades and for you to feel good. it's actually selfless work. it is selfless. it is like humble work. i feel like it's so much like parenting. anytime people are like, "how's motherhood?" i'm like, "it's humbling." "i feel very humble right now, but it's good." no, but i think building a legacy it is selfless work and you get distracted and you get off the path anytime that you are trying to make it about you, because that's where you're. you know, you want to be in the spotlight and you want to have all the fun and the glamour that comes with all of these, all of these things that we equate to building a legacy. but in actuality, like, building a legacy is is intentionally passing things to others. it's like taking the grace that you've been given and willingly giving that to someone else. like, that's what it is. and people that you'll never see, you know, people that you'll never know. so i think that's just a little tidbit that i wanted to throw in there.
But, you know, I think a lot of times we do equate building a legacy to wealth building. Wealth building is just a byproduct. Like money and wealth. It's important, but it's a tool. It's not the end of the road. It's not the end all be all. You can have a ton of money, you can pass a ton of money, even to your children, and it can mean nothing if you haven't truly poured into them and really taught them how to manage that. And we were interested—we looked up—the CFP board of standards reports that nearly one third of lottery winners declare bankruptcy within 3 to 5 years. Why do I share that? Because if you are giving a ton of wealth, a ton of money, to someone that has not been prepared for it, that hasn't been trained, that hasn't been poured into, they don't know how to manage it. So you change their circumstances overnight, and it is often squandered. It is often—it crushes them because they have not developed to where they know how to manage and sustain that. So building a legacy isn't just about money. It's not about what you give people. It's not about the cars, the homes, whatever. It is truly about preparing other people to carry it. So, like even whenever I'm working in our business and I'm coaching people, like that is a huge byproduct of all the things that we're working towards. Yes, we're into business strategy. Yes, we're doing profitable pricing structures. We're reworking offer suites. We're doing all of these things. But also, at the same time, there is a lot of personal growth and expansion and preparation that you have to be putting in in order to sustain whatever it is that you're working towards. And I think that that's true for your personal life too. When you enter into a relationship, when you get married, when you have a child, like, you have to work on yourself because then you have others depending on you. so you have to be prepared for it. but ultimately, legacy is really about the mindset, the values, the identity. it's not about the material items, it's not about the money. you have to think bigger and more expansive about it than that.
It's so true. I think you said this. you said: "legacy isn't about you." And I feel like, oh my gosh, like that is the biggest thing. If you take like nothing else away from this, like that honestly has blown my mind recently. I feel like I wasn't able to fully realize that for myself until you had your baby, and I feel like when he came into the picture, I was just like this. Life isn't about me. like I am here and I'm here. you know, living my life and I am part of of this world and we are doing, you know, the best of what we have. we're building our business, we're exploring, we're trying new things. you know, we're like living life, but like now, life is about him. for me, it's like, and like when I have kids one day, I know it'll be like the same kind of thing. It's like then. it's like you're just getting ready to like, pass the torch onto someone else, to the next generation. and it's not even just, I think, to do with family, although that's a very like, obvious sort of like symbol of like passing down the torch, the next generation legacy, but like it can be like a friend of yours, like if you positively affect them and they have children or they have friends, and then it sort of is like that ripple effect that happens. It's not just to do with family, but I feel like that's such an obvious sign for me of like. when he was born, I was just like, oh my gosh, like he is going to grow up one day and he's going to be my age and then I'm going to be like way older than him. and then we're not going to be here one day. and it's like it just was a kind of humbling in a way experience of just being like: wow, this life is not just about me and it's not just about us. and sometimes I think we can. just I don't think we're intentionally trying to be selfish or like self-centered. i don't think that i would call myself like a self-centered person, but i think that we can go about life feeling like a little bit self-centered and like this. life is just about me, like it's my story, you know, and i'm living my story, and like nothing else really matters. but it's like so much bigger than that and like you were talking about with our our great, great, great, however, many grandfathers who, like, were just hard workers like that is passing down a legacy and like no one I feel like in our family probably thought that way until it got to. like our dad. I feel like I don't think any of those men thought about the importance of that hard work. I think they, just like they were good old Southern men who just worked hard and it was like that, simple. I don't think they really thought that big, maybe, but it was like. that's like the invisible thread of legacy and like we're a part of that thread, but it's just gonna keep going. like, if you imagine this line from up up to down, it's like we're just like a dot on that line and it's just gonna keep going like beyond us. it's like that's what legacy is. it's an invisible thread. it's like the roots underneath the ground that you don't really see. you don't see legacy. you just like live it. you're just living your life and then you know you kind of are. you're like actively creating your legacy. you don't even maybe realize it. but like, yeah, i don't know, it's just. it's not all about us like this isn't just our story. it's like we're all like a piece of the puzzle, like of the bigger puzzle of of life and like, yeah.
I think about our seventh great grandpa and like no one in our family was like wealthy by any means. Like he was not running like some huge big-time business. He was just working hard, like providing for his family and like putting food on the table. And like when my dad went into business, and and just sold anything under the sun, he said that it was because he needed to put food on the table for our mom. That's all it was. And that was building a legacy. I also thought about Barbara Ann, B-A. I thought about her too. I literally want to cry. Like Barbara Ann essentially is a family friend, but she met our parents when they were really young. They were recently married, probably in their twenties—yeah, probably in their twenties. And she was just this sweet, like firecracker of a woman. And she just loved my parents. Like she found them in a time where, like, they were, they were just kind of all over the place. They were like in the era of, you know, sex, drugs, rock and roll. Like we were just doing all the things and hanging out. And she was just like this steady force in their life and just loved them and spoke of, just like the love of God for them. And she would host them in her home and she, you know, would put out all of her place settings and she would cook like a three-course meal. Nothing that was super fancy, but just like, you know, Southern hospitality. And I still remember, she would—uh, years later, she would come and visit us. She would bring this, like, sweet bread that Jordan and I loved. We'd always be like, "BA, you bring that sweet bread?" I'm like, to this day, I need to know where to get this sweet bread. And she was such an instrumental force, like, in my parents' life. Like she's such a big reason why they essentially turned their life around and they provided such a stable and powerful home for Jordan and I. So BA's legacy is living on through us and now through Leo. That's the invisible thread. That's what you're doing. It's like building a legacy is like when you host your friends and family and you take care of every little detail and you put all the place settings on the table and you put your heart into that meal that you cooked or that you catered. if you're like me and you can't really cook but you clean the house and you did something, right? It's the intention that you're putting in and the relationships that you're fostering, and it's in these unseen actions and things that you're taking behind the scenes. Like it's quiet work. It doesn't have to be loud and it is selfless work. Like that's really what it is. so, anytime that you say, "you know, i-i want to build a legacy," like, just remember that and realize that, like, it is selfless work. and we are all here because we make up the bigger picture and the bigger story. like, we're all a part of it. we're all a part of this grand story, but like, we aren't it. like, we aren't the story. like, this is just our story unfolding within this larger plan that, like, god, has, and we're all following our own path, and it is all important, but it is selfless work at the end of the day. so—
So like, you don't have to have all the big, big things, although that's like, if you want that, that's cool. But like, you're already doing it. You're already doing it. This is the tribe of legacy creators, okay? Yes. We are a tribe. We're passing on the torches. But ultimately, all the time, but especially this season, we are really here to champion you and just help you step into who you have always been, who you're always meant to be, to live your legacy, to not just leave it behind, to not just aim to leave things behind, but to actually live and embody and be in the legacy, in the work, in what you're doing every single day and realize that it all does add up. And we hope that this season ultimately is a return, a remembering, a rerouting, and we have to close with this quote which like set the tone for the whole season. Honestly, this is the first thing that Jordan she she thought of, but obviously Hamilton: "what is a legacy? it's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see." I mean, boom. And we should just leave and that should be the whole episode. Just that one quote. Just, oh man, you guys, it feels so good to be back. We're so happy to be back. We can't wait for an incredible season. Thank you guys for tuning in, and we will catch you guys next time. Bye. Bye.
